... Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: there is something on the heater Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: I can't remember ginovak@yahoo.com says: ok Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: well, just in this second I received an e-mail! Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: there are some yellow lights Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: I can't remember what the hell they are ginovak@yahoo.com says: i'm not sure either, but you should be able to check the logs to see if everything is OK ginovak@yahoo.com says: do you remember how to do that? ginovak@yahoo.com says: the channel mapping is posted on the sparo web page ginovak@yahoo.com says: or i guess you could just check the screen on the monitor to see what is flashing red ginovak@yahoo.com says: (i think should flash red if out of range) Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: it is number 6 and number 14 (unused) Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: but the values should be ok ginovak@yahoo.com says: electronics or mirror? Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: wait a second ginovak@yahoo.com says: electronics: 6 ACBAR Blue Box #2 14 Chopper Plate ginovak@yahoo.com says: mirror: 6 is Secondary Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: wait please... ginovak@yahoo.com says: ok Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: ok Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: so, this is the situation Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: channel #11 yellow Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: channell #17 yellow ginovak@yahoo.com says: hang on ginovak@yahoo.com says: electronics or mirror? ginovak@yahoo.com says: (recall there are two heating systems) Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: I'm checking Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: where did you find the list? ginovak@yahoo.com says: SPARO web page - under electronics ginovak@yahoo.com says: but first we need to determine if it is the elctronics or mirror heating system. ginovak@yahoo.com says: the one with all the pretty lights is the electronics heating system - the mirror heating system is behind ginovak@yahoo.com says: a panel Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: ok. electronics ginovak@yahoo.com says: ok ginovak@yahoo.com says: are 11 and 17 flashing red on the monitor? Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: the problem is that I can't find what is the yellow led Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: no ginovak@yahoo.com says: i also don't remember. and its too early to call mark thoma ginovak@yahoo.com says: (he is a late afternoon person) ginovak@yahoo.com says: Bob L. might know and he is reachable now ginovak@yahoo.com says: but first lets do some diagnostics. why don't we look at the log files? Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: the values are all normal. The elevation course motor is 288 Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: I don't think there is anything wrong because everything is ok ginovak@yahoo.com says: el course motor is 17 ginovak@yahoo.com says: 11 = Focus CCTY ginovak@yahoo.com says: what is the temp in the log for 11 = Focus CCTY ? Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: 288 Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: so, there is nothing wrong Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: apparently Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: but I didn't expect to see yellow leds on ginovak@yahoo.com says: ok, i think yellow means bad sensor, that is my memory. or ground fault ginovak@yahoo.com says: does any other sensor read 288? Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: yes, but not exactly the same value ginovak@yahoo.com says: interesting Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: ok, I want to check something now ginovak@yahoo.com says: ok Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: so, we can keep in touch later ginovak@yahoo.com says: ok Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: I want to restart the electronics and the software ginovak@yahoo.com says: ok Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: and see what happen, and see if upstair there is something wrong with the cables ginovak@yahoo.com says: ok ginovak@yahoo.com says: good thinking Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: maybe that during the cycling I touched a cable, who knows Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: ok, so, I'll try to find out what is wrong ginovak@yahoo.com says: e.g. what do the yellow lights mean Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: right ginovak@yahoo.com says: i have an idea - can you take a quick photo of the front panel of the heater system and send it to me? Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: I remember I spoken about red and green light, but not about yellow Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: already done. Do you want it? Paolo Gherardo Calisse would like to send you the file "gmount 013.jpg" (344 Kb). Transfer time is less than 3 minutes with a 28.8 modem. Do you want to Accept (Alt+T) or Decline (Alt+D) the invitation? ginovak@yahoo.com says: i really would like to get Bob and Martin to say what the yellow lights mean, but we need to say *which* lights are yellow. i think there are some yellow lights that just mean that the system is under analog mode Transfer of file "gmount 013.jpg" from Paolo Gherardo Calisse has been accepted. Starting transfer... ginovak@yahoo.com says: once we fix this problem we can also use your picture to develope documentation Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: note that one of the yellow led is reserved Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: are you receiving the picture? ginovak@yahoo.com says: its still coming You have successfully received C:\Documents and Settings\Giles\My Documents\My Received Files\gmount 013.jpg from Paolo Gherardo Calisse. Before opening this file, you may want to scan it with a virus-scanning program. Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: done... ginovak@yahoo.com says: ok, i have looked at it ginovak@yahoo.com says: i think that these yellow lights are just telling you that you are under analog mode - completely normal ginovak@yahoo.com says: but i will verify with Mark Thoma ginovak@yahoo.com says: maybe i should instead try to reach Martin Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: never seen this lights on, and never received an error message ginovak@yahoo.com says: oh, in that case... ginovak@yahoo.com says: ...that is different ginovak@yahoo.com says: are you sure that these lights are not always on? Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: never Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: never on Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: I mean ginovak@yahoo.com says: maybe they mean that we are now under computer control! ginovak@yahoo.com says: maybe we should call Martin and wake him up. if he has a computer at home he can log in and see what Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: why should we have 2 leds only uunder computer control? ginovak@yahoo.com says: is going on ginovak@yahoo.com says: no - what i mean is that as i recall ... there are two yellow lights that come on when you are under computer ginovak@yahoo.com says: control. maybe these lights are not associated with channels 11 and 17 after all Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: I think you got it Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: that's right, they are the only 2 yellow leds ginovak@yahoo.com says: if we are under computer control, i think that there is a way to change it, maybe from the front panel (monitor) Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: maybe someone is working on it Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: let me check and (possibly) reset Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: if the values are ok, I would like to start observing as soon as possible ginovak@yahoo.com says: well, i am a bit worried about this. ginovak@yahoo.com says: (i want data, but i know that in past heater problems have caused huge risk) Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: now I am no more... ginovak@yahoo.com says: well, OK Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: because probably you are right Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: ok, let me do those checks ginovak@yahoo.com says: well, OK. but what about the warning messages that you just got. should we not at least run through ginovak@yahoo.com says: the logs and make sure that there is no problem? ginovak@yahoo.com says: do you remember how to access the logs? ginovak@yahoo.com says: if not i can look up the e-mail from martin ginovak@yahoo.com says: i found the email from Martin so i know how to check logs Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: I have to check Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: ok, let me do this boot ginovak@yahoo.com says: ok Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: of everything down there ginovak@yahoo.com says: ok Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: interesting... ginovak@yahoo.com says: hi Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: well: Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: 1. as soon as I touched the back panel of the heater, a cable came off ginovak@yahoo.com says: oops Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: I stop the heater pc, and powered down the electronics ginovak@yahoo.com says: ok Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: than powered up the electronics, and the yellow lights went of Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: off ginovak@yahoo.com says: what about that cable? were you able to figure out where to reconnect it? Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: than powered down the pc. The yellow lights came on again, but when the software restarted they went off again Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: I inserted the cable (is it probably a DIO cable Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: ) Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: whit the pc off Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: ok, everything looks fine now ginovak@yahoo.com says: so are the yellow lights on now? Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: this is an interesting test... Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: no, they are not Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: your idea was correct Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: the leds say "I got control" Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: maybe related with the cable that was apparently unplugged (maybe) ginovak@yahoo.com says: ok, but lets not declare victory yet. can you go watch the monitor for a while and make sure that that temsp are updating. every minute or 30 seconds or three minutes (i forget the interval) the temps should all update Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: yes, they are ginovak@yahoo.com says: can you go stare at the monitor for a few minutes and make sure that they are updating ginovak@yahoo.com says: ok, never mind Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: the temperature are now raising after the short power down ginovak@yahoo.com says: are they normal? Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: I would say yes, but I have to check one by one now and see what exactly is happening. The ones "criticals" are around 275-280 Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: (by memory) ginovak@yahoo.com says: ok, if you want to go do the check now, i will download the log files so i can e-mail to Martin. ginovak@yahoo.com says: (and study myself - they may have clue as far as what happened Paolo Gherardo Calisse says: ok ...